Interviews with a SpamPire

Organizations behind the "online marketing" plague:

Interviews with SpamPires

Synopsis: "You must have asked for this somewhere.."
*From: Michael Kaye 
*To: Darren Platt 
*Subject: RE: SPAM from
*Per you request, we have deleted you from our database.
*Darren, you should check the privavcy policies at the site that you signed
*up on, because that's how wwe got your name and it clearly says that you are
*authorizing them to share or sell your name.
*So please stop alleging that we did something wrong here, becasue we have
*Have a great day.
I'll bet you can't name that site.  As a policy, I never allow unsolicited
leaving only one possibility, unethical behaviour.  Given that noone I have
met asks for junkmail like this all day, you might ask yourself the same
question - is it possible my database is populated only with victims of
bottom-of-pool-scum type marketing practises?

Have a nice day,


(They never replied...)

This guy had the nerve to ask me how I got this email address ;) Then tries the Schultz "I know nothing" defence.
From: "Josh Peterson" <>
To: "Darren Platt" <>
Subject: Re: You lowlife spamming scum..
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:50:34 -0800
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2002 15:50:34.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CE10990:01C1C45D]

How did you get my email?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Platt" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: You lowlife spamming scum..

> Get this crap out of my mailbox.  I thought people in San Francisco had a
> little more decency than this,
> Darren.
> ----- Forwarded message from Dish Network <>

* Darren:
* First off we DID NOT send you any email or SPAM. You have voiced your
* complaint to the wrong person. Secondly, you need not use such an
* aggresive/offensive tone when trying to reslove an issue. We are an add
* agency that may possibly have a tracking link embedded in the advertisement
* you saw. If you want to forward me a copy of the original email you recieved
* I would be happy track down the associated email list publisher and have
* them remove you from their datalist.

Right, so you're totally innocent, and don't condone the kind of behaviour
that company engages in etc, but they just happen to use your website in their
email.   Email attached.   You also happen to be the only contact details
they provide though  I'm trying to convey a sense that perhaps
your business model is unethical, and socially despicable.  You must know how
your friends and family feel about SPAM, and I just can't understand how supporting
a practice that causes so much anger throughout every level of society can help
you sleep at night.  This isn't a simple misunderstanding where I email you
and you say "oh sorry, we didn't realise you wouldn't want unsolicited email".
It's about you and your associates blatant disregard for my privacy.  I never
ask for unsolicited email.  Perhaps you could pass this along to the
"associated email list publisher" who didn't get that concept,


This one says basically "I asked for it" but can't recall the details..
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 04:35:53PM -0500, wrote:
> Darren you signed up to receive additional offers on a Network Commerce web
> site.  You gave the following information as proof of your identity...
> I will however use the unsubscribe link and remove your name.
> Wes Burnett

I never ever ever sign up for crap like this, I have a life.  I take my
privacy very seriously and am appalled that you don't.
This one is interesting. They have both "opt-in" and "opt-out" customers. I guess I'm in the opt-out category.

Thanks for the feedback, we have removed your email address from our

Our database is comprised of both opt in and opt out users that have
registered directly with us, or have been purchased from a variety of
sites over the past 12 months. In all cases users are provided with the
to unsubscribe from our user base at any time at our website, or can
to link to the unsubscribe link which in included in all e-mails sent.
In the
event that the user chooses to unsubscribe, the user will be taken out
database within in a 24 hour period.

Warm regards,


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